How Trump Is Selling Out Ukraine | The David Frum Show
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In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum discusses President Trump’s announced diesel deal with Russia, the administration’s abandonment of Ukraine, and why Trump is giving up so much to gain very little.
Then, David is joined from Kyiv by Illia Ponomarenko, a Ukrainian journalist and the author of the new book “The Land of Tears and Hope.” David and Illia talk about the history of Ukraine, its current state as the war with Russia rages on, and how and why the Trump administration seems so hostile to the country.
Finally, David concludes with discussion about why so little literature exists about the history of slavery in Eastern Europe.
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00:00 Introduction
01:13 Vaporware Diesel Deal
03:29 Sanctions and Ukraine Pressure
05:03 Trump Illusions and Greed
06:57 Ilya Ponomarenko
07:56 Kyiv Under Air Assault
11:56 Jet Drones and Counter Tech
14:17 Battlefield Gains and Surrenders
16:15 Aid Cutoff and Intel Lifeline
18:18 Ukrainian Views of America
22:13 A New History of Ukraine
26:01 Kyiv Older Than Moscow
29:52 Bloodlands and Honest Memory
33:26 Facing National Dark Chapters
47:19 EU Flag as Dream
56:15 Book Talk
Then, David is joined from Kyiv by Illia Ponomarenko, a Ukrainian journalist and the author of the new book “The Land of Tears and Hope.” David and Illia talk about the history of Ukraine, its current state as the war with Russia rages on, and how and why the Trump administration seems so hostile to the country.
Finally, David concludes with discussion about why so little literature exists about the history of slavery in Eastern Europe.
Sign up for David Frum’s newsletter alert to find out when a new story is published: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/david-frum/?follow=true&utm_campaign=frum-yt
Subscribe to “The David Frum Show” on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-david-frum-show/id1305908387
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00:00 Introduction
01:13 Vaporware Diesel Deal
03:29 Sanctions and Ukraine Pressure
05:03 Trump Illusions and Greed
06:57 Ilya Ponomarenko
07:56 Kyiv Under Air Assault
11:56 Jet Drones and Counter Tech
14:17 Battlefield Gains and Surrenders
16:15 Aid Cutoff and Intel Lifeline
18:18 Ukrainian Views of America
22:13 A New History of Ukraine
26:01 Kyiv Older Than Moscow
29:52 Bloodlands and Honest Memory
33:26 Facing National Dark Chapters
47:19 EU Flag as Dream
56:15 Book Talk
